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 ZF Ecomat/Ecolife Transmission Script 1.00 RC9

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BeitragThema: Re: ZF Ecomat/Ecolife Transmission Script 1.00 RC9   ZF Ecomat/Ecolife Transmission Script 1.00 RC9 - Seite 16 Icon_minitimeMi 13 Jul - 7:38

Is it possible to create a wonderful ZF sound for the Mercedes O405 N2?
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the sound of the sd92 is loosely based off of an recording of a ecomat II on an artic, good luck getting the whine to sound right on the Sd92, I have been trying but the result is within the package files...


http://gallery.hkbdc.info/v/VA54-HN8897/Sound/NWFB5507_905.mp3.html

What I have know is that the whine sound should not exceed more then a second, and also the volume should not exceed over 1, otherwise the sound would be sound spotty as the m_wheel and axle volume increases.

[code]
GearWhine Gear 2L
[loopsound]
ZF-Ecomat-Earlier-Whine.wav
44100
antrieb_n_kardanwelle
592
1.0
[code]


the idea really is to get the whine sound by itself, so I tried using harmonics, that actually came out pretty well. have not implemented it to the package files though because it is still being tweaked.
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mobiel schrieb:
Is it possible to create a wonderful ZF sound for the Mercedes O405 N2?
It is OMSI after all, so it is possible! Very Happy No idea what year that Mercedes O405 N2 is though, The ZF transmission which it used is from an very early version of the mod, perhaps the first version. If the Model is after 1986, then the model gets a Ecomat I transmission. I do have a whine harmonic sound though, the frequency (HZ), axle rpm, etc can all be modified to make it sound like the Mercedes O405 N2 sound. But it is going to get hours to get things to sound correct though, and there may need to be an overlapping sound to make it sound correct, not to mentioned that the script, not the consist file, may need to changes done to it as well.
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How do i extract a indicator sound from a SL200 recording i downloaded a few years back so i can put on SD83 bus and also the foot brake pressure sound on the SD 88-92 which is already in omsi i would like to put on SD83 bus as the sound was used on the Adelaide SL200 MAN

For D92 SL202 will the sounds come from a diesel or CNG SL202, I have recordings of a turbo fitted ZF CNG SL202 (Not my recording though) it has a nice whine as our city has Voith and ZF Diesels and CNG ZF SL202

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mskariss77 schrieb:
For D92 SL202 will the sounds come from a diesel or CNG SL202, I have recordings of a turbo fitted ZF CNG SL202 (Not my recording though) it has a nice whine as our city has Voith and ZF Diesels and CNG ZF SL202

My plan is to extract the gearbox noise from a CNG variant but the engine sounds from a diesel variant.
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krtz07 schrieb:
mobiel schrieb:
Is it possible to create a wonderful ZF sound for the Mercedes O405 N2?
It is OMSI after all, so it is possible! Very Happy No idea what year that Mercedes O405 N2 is though, The ZF transmission which it used is from an very early version of the mod, perhaps the first version. If the Model is after 1986, then the model gets a Ecomat I transmission. I do have a whine harmonic sound though, the frequency (HZ), axle rpm, etc can all be modified to make it sound like the Mercedes O405 N2 sound. But it is going to get hours to get things to sound correct though, and there may need to be an overlapping sound to make it sound correct, not to mentioned that the script, not the consist file, may need to changes done to it as well.

I know that it is very complicated. But would you try it ?
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Complicated is an understatement, try an extremely tedious procedure.

Well I am going to upload the files which I am currently working on with an harmonic wave file for the Ecomat II. If someone can recreated the ZF and it is good, then I will incorporate it onto the ZF mod. I am not going to waste too much time in sound editing!!! The frequency of this wave sound can be adjusted, so if the pitch is too high or too low, this can be adjusted. I have incorporated used this sound successfully on the Ecomat - First variant. Ironically, nothing needed to be changed, albeit that sound came out clearer because the whine sound is just an whine sound - not noised up with an engine in the background.


http://www.philadelphiatransitvehicles.info/OMSI/Zf-Ecomat-Whine-Sound.zip
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very nice have you ever heard articualted scania omicity gearbox i just love it :-)
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D86 & D89 comes up scripting errors for me saying errors in line codes. Any ideas how to fix?
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krtz07 schrieb:
mobiel schrieb:
Is it possible to create a wonderful ZF sound for the Mercedes O405 N2?
It is OMSI after all, so it is possible! Very Happy No idea what year that Mercedes O405 N2 is though, The ZF transmission which it used is from an very early version of the mod, perhaps the first version. If the Model is after 1986, then the model gets a Ecomat I transmission. I do have a whine harmonic sound though, the frequency (HZ), axle rpm, etc can all be modified to make it sound like the Mercedes O405 N2 sound. But it is going to get hours to get things to sound correct though, and there may need to be an overlapping sound to make it sound correct, not to mentioned that the script, not the consist file, may need to changes done to it as well.

The O 405N² was build from 1994 to 2001. But it has a ZF 4HP/5HP gearbox. The Ecomat Gearbox came first to the Citaro in 1998.
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Correct, 'our' O405G's from 2001 still had a ZF5HP500 gearbox.
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Hallo!

Im Ordner "Readme" befindet sich ein Ordner "Addon buses Files". Ich habe dessen Inhalt in den Ordner "MAN SD202" -> "Script" reingtan. Ist das richtig so?! Weil ich bekomme jetzt Fehlermeldungen beim Auswählen der Busse!!

Bitte um Hilfe - DANKESCHÖN!!!

LG
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Nein, haste Falsch gemacht, welche Datei hast du überhaupt runtergeladen?
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http://www.philadelphiatransitvehicles.info/OMSI/ZF-Script-1.00RC7.zip

Das ist die Datei. Na vom krzt07 auf der Seite 24. Und was mach ich dann mit den Dateien aus dem Ordner "Addon buses files"? Die müssen ja auch iwo hin!? Question
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ne die löscht du wieder aus dem ordner und nimmst nur die ordner MAN SD200 und MAN SD202
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zavage schrieb:
ne die löscht du wieder aus dem ordner und nimmst nur die ordner MAN SD200 und MAN SD202

ja hab den Fehler schon entdeckt! Danke! ;-)
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I cant download the RC6 every links downloads the RC7
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thanks! let me try!
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Hello krtz07!

I have only one question. I saw that you made a ZF 6HP 502 gearbox. Now i working on a bus ARC134 which has ZF 6HP 504C gearbox. I found an info that the difference between the 2 gearbox is ~ 10 years, but in a hungarian forum i got an info that the transmission is the same. Can you help me to make this gearbox or i can use the 502 too? Or what is the difference between 502 and 504C? the website of ZF can help in this case?
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I have a problem with the D86:

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Where´s the problem?
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Problem is written there on the screen. You forgot to add the a constant (throttleInjection_governor_1_c) to the const file.
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ARC schrieb:
Hello krtz07!

I have only one question. I saw that you made a ZF 6HP 502 gearbox. Now i working on a bus ARC134 which has ZF 6HP 504C gearbox. I found an info that the difference between the 2 gearbox is ~ 10 years, but in a hungarian forum i got an info that the transmission is the same. Can you help me to make this gearbox or i can use the 502 too? Or what is the difference between 502 and 504C? the website of ZF can help in this case?
6 gear 502C product sheet: http://appsprod01.zf.com/zf.productDataBase/service/mediaFiles?levelTypeName=Products&levelID=19149&mediaFileName=Ecomat2_Bus_EN.pdf (link working by me only with Internet Explorer..)
504 C product sheet: http://appsprod01.zf.com/zf.productDataBase/service/mediaFiles?levelTypeName=Products&levelID=318993&mediaFileName=Ecomat4_BUS_EN.pdf
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nemeza schrieb:
ARC schrieb:
Hello krtz07!

I have only one question. I saw that you made a ZF 6HP 502 gearbox. Now i working on a bus ARC134 which has ZF 6HP 504C gearbox. I found an info that the difference between the 2 gearbox is ~ 10 years, but in a hungarian forum i got an info that the transmission is the same. Can you help me to make this gearbox or i can use the 502 too? Or what is the difference between 502 and 504C? the website of ZF can help in this case?
6 gear 502C product sheet: http://appsprod01.zf.com/zf.productDataBase/service/mediaFiles?levelTypeName=Products&levelID=19149&mediaFileName=Ecomat2_Bus_EN.pdf (link working by me only with Internet Explorer..)
504 C product sheet: http://appsprod01.zf.com/zf.productDataBase/service/mediaFiles?levelTypeName=Products&levelID=318993&mediaFileName=Ecomat4_BUS_EN.pdf
Totally the same. Smile But krtz07 wrote that too. My next task is to record sounds of the gearbox and retarder. It is a little bit hard because KXG-163 is inappropriate ( high background noise) so i have to search 162 or 164 but their drivers are unfamiliar for me.
Tomorrow i am working too, but Tuesday is free. Smile
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@krtz07: I've been messing around with the ZF gearbox but there is 1 problem left I just can't solve. I've edited the gearboxes a bit and now I'm struggling with the kickdown from 3rd to 2nd gear. How can I get the gearchange back to 2nd nice and smooth? Thanks.. Smile
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which transmission? Well you have to make sure that the driveshift-upshift rpm of the previous gear is greater then the kickdown-downshift rpm of the next gear.
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