I've found the problem with the D89. Open the MAN_D89_ZF.bus file and look up the rule "script\cockpit_zf.osc". Change this to "script\cockpit_zf_83.osc". Now it should work.
Thanks Stefan, I wondered why it was shifting a bit strangely - have both the mistaken file and the correct one and put the difference down to the SD202 physics.
I have uploaded the fixed version including the sound. Thanks again to krtz7 for his wonderful ZF Ecomat!!
sorry to bother you... but still i cannot hear any sound from the bus after replacing the files with the new ones
Fixed - redownload, sorry for any inconvenience.
O 405 NÜ
Anzahl der Beiträge : 102 Anmeldedatum : 10.10.10 Alter : 29 Ort : Xanten-Marienbaum & Goch
finally i could play with the addon, it's great, but i wonder if the script was modified from the D92's as i found that the opening sound of door is the D92's
O 405 NÜ
Anzahl der Beiträge : 102 Anmeldedatum : 10.10.10 Alter : 29 Ort : Xanten-Marienbaum & Goch
I do not mind any modifications made to the mod, but please mind that the mod is only at 0.6 soon to be 0.65a. So any changes made will need to be adjusted to the modification of this modification accordingly. 0.65A will include reverted cockpit script for the #2 gear selector, if someone can figure out how to made it limit to 4th- OMSI gear, which is 2L, then have fun with it! Slippage on downshifting of the gears has been reduced. If the transmission is slapping please post about it and tell me the conditions so I can try and replicate it. Also replaced the rear axle sound with a slightly more high pitch version of the one in OMSI, it is just some experimenting of me using Audacity - and lowered the sound curve of the axle noise overall, so 80 kph does not sound like 120 kph!!!
Zuletzt von krtz07 am Mi 13 Apr - 17:23 bearbeitet; insgesamt 1-mal bearbeitet
krtz07
Anzahl der Beiträge : 413 Anmeldedatum : 10.09.09 Alter : 39 Ort : Philadelphia PA
I think I will leave my version as it is, and try to do a 5HP for the D92 - I want it to sound like the ZF in most Alexander Royale bodied Volvo Olympians here (the Euro 2? Volvo engined ones, N-reg and onwards). I would also like to try making one sound like Lothians Cummins L10/ZF Volvo's very distinctive sound.
I think I will leave my version as it is, and try to do a 5HP for the D92 - I want it to sound like the ZF in most Alexander Royale bodied Volvo Olympians here (the Euro 2? Volvo engined ones, N-reg and onwards). I would also like to try making one sound like Lothians Cummins L10/ZF Volvo's very distinctive sound.
I do have a 6HP-500 laying around which could be strict down to 5 gears with the familiar 2nd gear converter gear on initial acceleration. Its in the very begining stages though if you are interested in it, pm me
I think I will leave my version as it is, and try to do a 5HP for the D92 - I want it to sound like the ZF in most Alexander Royale bodied Volvo Olympians here (the Euro 2? Volvo engined ones, N-reg and onwards). I would also like to try making one sound like Lothians Cummins L10/ZF Volvo's very distinctive sound.
I don`t know much about the different ZF gearbox types but someone posted a video in another topic and that is how it should sound to me. In Amsterdam, the city where I live, we also had buses with these type of ZF gearbox (atleast with the same sound) back in the 90`s. It would be awesome if this sound could be created in OMSI. Edit: I found out that it seems to be the ZF4HP500 gearbox which krtz07 is already creating so I guess the same gearbox can produce different sounds, in the following video you can really hear it "screaming".
I think the best part is from 1:10!
krtz07
Anzahl der Beiträge : 413 Anmeldedatum : 10.09.09 Alter : 39 Ort : Philadelphia PA
I might just released the 5 and 6 speed version of the ZF out. Below I have listed the % completed, instead of just the 4HP-500, i will do the 5 and 6 speed version. If someone wants to make any changes to the script, then go ahead as it would be open source. If someone has some really mild questions regarding to the scripts, then I will offer support when it comes to simple scripting such as telling which gears where the torque converter locks up in and what gears the torque converter locks out. If it is really good then I will incorporate it into the master version of the file so people do not have to go around and download 10 different files! The whole idea behind this project is to offer more alternatives to that of the default Voith 851 transmission. The voith Is great and all but it gets boring after a while, so any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
So far, it's
4HP-500 75% complete 5HP-500 0% complete - never worked on it 6hp-500 40% complete
6hp-590 40% 6hp-592 45% complete - the difference between the 592 and 590 is the progressive shifting scheduling ability.
Next up would be the Allison transmission, but will not move on into that project until sometime during the late spring or summer.
I have adjusted the D89 version so it uses the original D88 sounds and not the D92 ones, also the gear ratios are longer for a higher top speed of about 60 mph (96 km/h) for motorway cruising - I am planning an intercity route, either the 900 Edinburgh to Glasgow or a fictitious Berlin to [insert name of nearby town here ], with lots of high speed driving.
On the subject of other types of transmission, would someone be able to give me advice on doing the Leyland Hydracyclic gearbox which has both manual and automatic modes (5 speed, no kickdown afaik), and has no special sounds really apart from a "ch" sound sometimes when shifting.
I have adjusted the D89 version so it uses the original D88 sounds and not the D92 ones, also the gear ratios are longer for a higher top speed of about 60 mph (96 km/h) for motorway cruising - I am planning an intercity route, either the 900 Edinburgh to Glasgow or a fictitious Berlin to [insert name of nearby town here ], with lots of high speed driving.
On the subject of other types of transmission, would someone be able to give me advice on doing the Leyland Hydracyclic gearbox which has both manual and automatic modes (5 speed, no kickdown afaik), and has no special sounds really apart from a "ch" sound sometimes when shifting.
We need InterCity bus! SD200 or SD202 are not safe in high speeds. Instead of putting new gearboxes to those buses we need all new bus, and put ZF to it.
krtz07
Anzahl der Beiträge : 413 Anmeldedatum : 10.09.09 Alter : 39 Ort : Philadelphia PA
I have adjusted the D89 version so it uses the original D88 sounds and not the D92 ones, also the gear ratios are longer for a higher top speed of about 60 mph (96 km/h) for motorway cruising - I am planning an intercity route, either the 900 Edinburgh to Glasgow or a fictitious Berlin to [insert name of nearby town here ], with lots of high speed driving.
On the subject of other types of transmission, would someone be able to give me advice on doing the Leyland Hydracyclic gearbox which has both manual and automatic modes (5 speed, no kickdown afaik), and has no special sounds really apart from a "ch" sound sometimes when shifting.
We need InterCity bus! SD200 or SD202 are not safe in high speeds. Instead of putting new gearboxes to those buses we need all new bus, and put ZF to it.
+1
zavage
Anzahl der Beiträge : 1034 Anmeldedatum : 18.11.09 Ort : Bayern
Right guys. I've had a quick look at krtz07's script tonight and I'll be making some significant changes to it to improve realism.
I have already encoded and implemented a new 2nd to 3rd gearchange 'howl' noise which was recorded on an MAN SL 200 with ZF 4 HP 500.
I have also changed the final drive ratio to give a top speed of 85km/h in-line with the final drive ratio of a real MAN SL 200 or SD 200 (if the latter existed with a ZF 4 HP 500).
Things that will need to be done: * Addition of unlocked 3rd and 4th gears * Addition of retarder noises (including the noise made when the retarder disengages during downchanges or when coming to a complte stop) * Addition of gear noises (as each gear on a ZF gearbox sounds completely different * A complete overhaul of the gearchange points as the current gearchanges are too quick * Removal of Neutral at Bus Stop (early ZF gearboxes with not have NBS) * Reversal of the modified hub-reduction axle noises to the originals suppolied by the game
Right guys. I've had a quick look at krtz07's script tonight and I'll be making some significant changes to it to improve realism.
I have already encoded and implemented a new 2nd to 3rd gearchange 'howl' noise which was recorded on an MAN SL 200 with ZF 4 HP 500.
I have also changed the final drive ratio to give a top speed of 85km/h in-line with the final drive ratio of a real MAN SL 200 or SD 200 (if the latter existed with a ZF 4 HP 500).
Things that will need to be done: * Addition of unlocked 3rd and 4th gears * Addition of retarder noises (including the noise made when the retarder disengages during downchanges or when coming to a complte stop) * Addition of gear noises (as each gear on a ZF gearbox sounds completely different * A complete overhaul of the gearchange points as the current gearchanges are too quick * Removal of Neutral at Bus Stop (early ZF gearboxes with not have NBS) * Reversal of the modified hub-reduction axle noises to the originals suppolied by the game
I will attempt as much as I can over the weekend.
I believe the later ZF 4HP500 as fitted to Leyland Olympians and Lynxes would have NBS and fast gearchanges (know these buses well ) could you download my latest version from the link below and make the necessary changes (new gear/gear change sounds would be appreciated, but keep the Cummins L10 engine sound.)
Right guys. I've had a quick look at krtz07's script tonight and I'll be making some significant changes to it to improve realism.
I have already encoded and implemented a new 2nd to 3rd gearchange 'howl' noise which was recorded on an MAN SL 200 with ZF 4 HP 500.
I have also changed the final drive ratio to give a top speed of 85km/h in-line with the final drive ratio of a real MAN SL 200 or SD 200 (if the latter existed with a ZF 4 HP 500).
Things that will need to be done: * Addition of unlocked 3rd and 4th gears * Addition of retarder noises (including the noise made when the retarder disengages during downchanges or when coming to a complte stop) * Addition of gear noises (as each gear on a ZF gearbox sounds completely different * A complete overhaul of the gearchange points as the current gearchanges are too quick * Removal of Neutral at Bus Stop (early ZF gearboxes with not have NBS) * Reversal of the modified hub-reduction axle noises to the originals suppolied by the game
I will attempt as much as I can over the weekend.
If you do that, you will be my new God!
krtz07
Anzahl der Beiträge : 413 Anmeldedatum : 10.09.09 Alter : 39 Ort : Philadelphia PA
Right guys. I've had a quick look at krtz07's script tonight and I'll be making some significant changes to it to improve realism.
I have already encoded and implemented a new 2nd to 3rd gearchange 'howl' noise which was recorded on an MAN SL 200 with ZF 4 HP 500.
I have also changed the final drive ratio to give a top speed of 85km/h in-line with the final drive ratio of a real MAN SL 200 or SD 200 (if the latter existed with a ZF 4 HP 500).
Things that will need to be done: * Addition of unlocked 3rd and 4th gears * Addition of retarder noises (including the noise made when the retarder disengages during downchanges or when coming to a complte stop) * Addition of gear noises (as each gear on a ZF gearbox sounds completely different * A complete overhaul of the gearchange points as the current gearchanges are too quick * Removal of Neutral at Bus Stop (early ZF gearboxes with not have NBS) * Reversal of the modified hub-reduction axle noises to the originals suppolied by the game
I will attempt as much as I can over the weekend.
Just for the record just prior to releasing the script, I have consulted with you via pm, why wasn't those changes listed as suggestions, it would had saved me a great deal of time if I just do the script and left the tweaking to you, I would not had any issues with it! As half of those changes which you have listed requires editing the scripting file which takes time to do! That is the exact reason why the file is merely a alpha, never the less pre-alpha.
poweredbycng
Anzahl der Beiträge : 151 Anmeldedatum : 20.02.11 Alter : 39 Ort : Perth, Australien
A lot of these changes I wouldn't have known about until you released the first alpha. Not to worry. I already have the sound features under control and I will get to the calibration of the gearbox very shortly.
The second to third gearchange sounds great now!
scania_n270ub
Anzahl der Beiträge : 103 Anmeldedatum : 24.08.09 Alter : 32 Ort : Spanien
Heres the 4 speed version of it with unlock in each of the gears and yes i know it sucks it is only for development use only
consist file
Code:
Getriebeversion: 1: Retarder nicht im 1. Gang, keine Neutralschaltung 2: Retarder im 1. Gang, Neutralschaltung 3: Retarder nicht im 1. Gang, Neutralschaltung [const] antrieb_getr_version 1
Zeit für den Wechsel zwischen Retarder und Traktion (nur bei Getriebeversion 2) [const] antrieb_retarder_changetime 0.6
Mindestzeit, die eingekuppelt sein muss, bevor Neutralschaltung greift [const] antrieb_gear_engaged_mintime 2
Geschwindigkeit, unterhalb der die Neutralschaltung greift [const] antrieb_neutral_maxspeed 0
Bremsdruck in Pa, ab dem Neutralschaltung greift [const] antrieb_neutral_brakepressure 170000
[const] antrieb_kuppl_M_up_max 1100
[const] antrieb_kuppl_M_up_min 600
[const] antrieb_kuppl_M_dn_max 1100
[const] antrieb_kuppl_M_dn_min 600
L designates lock up C designates Converter Mode
[const] antrieb_getr_ratio1C 3.43
[const] antrieb_getr_ratio1L 3.43
Lock up First Gear
[const] antrieb_getr_ratio2C 2.01
Lock up Second Gear
[const] antrieb_getr_ratio2L 2.01
[const] antrieb_getr_ratio2 2.01
[const] antrieb_getr_ratio3 1.34
[const] antrieb_getr_ratio4 1.00
Lock up Fouth Gear
[const] antrieb_i_achse 4.84
Die folgenden Werte beziehen sich auf die Drehzahl der Kardanwelle und sind somit unabhängig von Achsübersetzung und Reifengröße! km/h zu Wellendrehzahl (Raddurchmesser=1.03, i_achse=5.74 =>Faktor 29.56
(L.L.antrieb_getr_gangvorwahl) 1 > 'Check if driveshaft is spinning Greater then Value assigned in consist file on if it is, then play the sound clip and change gears at designated value {if} (L.L.antrieb_n_kardanwelle) (C.L.antrieb_getr_autoSwDnMinSpd6) >
(L.L.antrieb_getr_gangwahl) 1 = {if} 0 (S.L.antrieb_getr_aktugang) {endif} 'Verhindern, dass der Rückwärtsgang oberhalb von 5 km/h eingelegt werden kann
'Fallunterscheidung, ob Getriebe reibt oder wandelt oder nicht:
(L.L.antrieb_getr_fest) {if}
'################################################################################# ' Berechnung der Beschleunigung des Antriebsstrangs (am Motorflansch) ' Calculate the acceleration of the drive train (on 'the flange) '#################################################################################
' Wenn das Antriebsmoment zu groß ist oder ein Wandlergang eingelegt wird, rutscht die Kupplung durch: ' If the torque is too large or a converter gear is engaged, the clutch slips:
' Wenn Neutralgang beim Bremsen eingelegt wird (L.L.antrieb_getr_gangwahl) 1 = {if} 0 (S.L.antrieb_retarder_wasrunning) (S.L.antrieb_gear_engaged_timer) {endif}
{else}
'################################################################################# ' Bestimmen, ob ein Wandlergang eingelegt ist...: Determine whether a converter gear is engaged '#################################################################################
' Vergleich der Ein- und Ausgangsleistungen: (L.L.M_Wheel) (L.L.n_Wheel) * 3.14 * 30000 / (S.L.antrieb_gesamtleistung) (L.L.antrieb_gesamtleistung) (L.L.antrieb_motorleistung) / (S.L.antrieb_eta)
(M.L.engine_acceleration)
'################################################################################# ' Sonst ist ein normaler Gang eingelegt: ' Otherwise, a normal gear is engaged: '#################################################################################
' Das Hochschalten aus dem 1. Gang (Antriebsstrang nicht fest eingekuppelt) zählt nicht zur Latenzzeit, solange also Armtime auf 0 halten: (L.L.antrieb_getr_fest) ! (L.L.antrieb_retarder) ! && {if} 0 (S.L.antrieb_retarder_armtime_elapsed) {endif}
This is a pre-1985 MAN SL 200 with an early ZF 4 HP 500 transmission. There is no NBS and the ratio of 1st gear is 2.80:1 instead of 3.43:1 like the later units.
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Mi 13 Apr - 15:57
], with lots of high speed driving.
) could you download my latest version from the link below and make the necessary changes (new gear/gear change sounds would be appreciated, but keep the Cummins L10 engine sound.)
