Display is always a display, but what about another one?

Hello,

While scanning traditionsbus.de, I saw three pics of D89 (that means we have them in OMSI) with destination displays DIFFERENT than ANNAX displays we have been given so far (that start to bore me a bit ).
These are the pics:
1. >> http://www.traditionsbus.de/Bilder/D/2015717-2.jpg
2. >> http://www.traditionsbus.de/Bilder/D/2015722-2.jpg
3. >> http://www.traditionsbus.de/Bilder/D/2015724-2.jpg
By now, you probably realize, what I am on about. See those full-size matrix displays?

I was wondering if it were possible to create such for D89 as a separate model (e.g. SD202 - D89 Matrix).

My way of handling this would be:
FIVE FONTS:
1) top-bottom
2) top-bottom, bold
3) half-display
4) half-display, bold
5) route number, one size
A script would see, how many characters there are, if two lines are used and use appropriate font.
As show on one of the photos, Staaken Reimerweg is shown double-lined, font 4 in all characters. On the U+S-Bahnhof Zoologischer Garten, however, it is a double-lined destination, but with top in font 4 and bottom in font 3. It would be rather bit of scripting, but anyway.

You get my idea.

So, let's see if anyone can try it Or at least a bit of a discussion about it.

Regards,
Tr.P.S.

Maybe it's the best solution for full-size displays to create whole bitmaps for each destination. THis would simplify text layout and allow the display of graphic items or negative font (as it's currently used for "BUS ENDET HIER" which is shown black on green).

Over my dead body. Please, anything, but bitmaps.

vBus had these done for ages now... there is a .csv file, which specifies, which pixels are lit (by decimal version of a binary number [001100011 would switch on 3rd, 4th, 8th and 9th pixels]). It loads data from a file and creates a bitmap automatically. In case the destination is changes, vBus generates another bitmap and sticks it into the same file.
I really don't think this would cause any trouble!

Well, we haven't specified on that yet.

BTW. One thing I forgot. If you had used bitmaps for full-size matrix, there would have to be a version for green flip-dot, green LED and orange LED (three files...). Also, there would have to be files for side and back (times two, that's now 9 files). Another thing. If users would create the displays as a bitmap, there would be another font for every map - and one display uses one font, obviously. And one, last thing. Animation. If you take a glance at any flip-dot display while it changes from one destination to another, you will notice that the dots flip column after column. And it would be, well... odd, if a flip-dot changed in one go.
So. Script is the only way to go.

BTW, only ONE bus (as far as I noticed) was fitted with full-sizers... and there's the point of my topic. ROFTL.

as there are many types of matrix displays in the world, it is hard to simulate all of them, such as the transition pattern of different pages, say overwritten from left to right, or from right to left, just moving from left or right, or even start changing the dots from two ends.
So it is better to reform the structure to reflect displays by matrix displays manufacturer?

Coming back to the topic:
I found some other SD202 equipped with such a kind of destination display, the D88 #3673. So another reason for scripting it...

Actually. After a while I think... if any-one from Berlin will be able to supply me with a clean matrix texture and font-files, I might give it a shot.

Why do you care about other matrix displays so much?

CristianSkytter schrieb:

Why do you care about other matrix displays so much?

Does it matter why he cares? He's only asking if its possible to do more modern displays! He doesn't have to give you or anyone else a reason why he's asking!

cmcn121 schrieb:

CristianSkytter schrieb:

Why do you care about other matrix displays so much?

Does it matter why he cares? He's only asking if its possible to do more modern displays! He doesn't have to give you or anyone else a reason why he's asking!

No, he doesn't. But I guess it must be a concrete reason for this what I'd like to know
Maybe any future plans or something?
It's free discusion, so take it easy.

Regads

For me, the destination displays are as important a part of the bus as everything else within the model. I decided that I wanted the game as soon as I saw the proper roller destination blinds scrolling on the first official Omsi video.

That's something that - with the greatest of respect to the modellers - seems to be lacking so far on the new single deck vehicles that are being developed. I'd love to be proved wrong, but so far, they seem to be afterthoughts and not a true attractive working part of the bus. Almost like a "piece of cardboard in the windscreen".

Oh, well, OK.

The ANNAX displays we have been provided with so far are slightly boring and, despite the fact that each character scrolls along separately, still lacks the column-by-column animation - but I assume this wouldn't be as necessary because the fact that characters scroll separately is good enough for me.
I can't think of the name of the full-size matrix display manufacturer (could be Mobitec, but the fontwork doesn't fit) - maybe ANNAX themselves as well? Anyway, at least 2 SD202 vehicles have been fitted with these displays - that's enough for me :p