[05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)

Mozart schrieb:

Here are the announcements:

I changed the name "Böhse-Onkelz-Kirche" into "St.-Marien-Kirche", so you have to change the name of the audio-file.

Have fun!

http://www.file-upload.net/download-3387256/Ansagen.rar.html

I took a fast look and I must say - it's brilliant !
Well done, Mozart, well done !

In this case, I will add them to download section in next uptade.

For now, I can't say when it will come out but I'll do anything to have it before the end of this week.

Thank you very much Cristian. You are doing an amazing work. I hope you don't mind my slight observation that I made.

Mozart, I love your announcements. They are awesome.

OMSIfan schrieb:

Thank you very much Cristian. You are doing an amazing work. I hope you don't mind my slight observation that I made.

Of course I don't.
I appreciate all of your positive replies as well as negative !

Thanks to your help, I can focus on the most important things which should be fixed/upgraded.

and995 schrieb:

But this EXPRESS route, Cristian, how are you doing with following this timetable? I think that average 65 km/h is too much, it's just impossible beacause all of these traffic lights. I could run the timetable, if there weren't any of these lights, but there are ofcourse and picking up the passengers takes some time too. 65 is surely to much from my point of view, but maybe you can follow the timetable

I just tested timetable for line 100.
I chose SD77 old bus to be more precise at 12 am.

- between Heerstr Stadgrenze and Magistrastweg -> 50 km/h
- between Am Omnibushof and Seeburger Str -> about 40-50km/h (with traffic lights)
- between U Rathaus Spandau and Platze -> 60 km/h (At Rathaus Spandau I was late about 1.5 min., at Platze only 0.5 min.)
- between Platze and Zeppelinstr. -> 55-60 km/h (straight road, no stops)
- between Zeppelinstr. and Am Kiesteich -> 30-45 km/h (at Am kiesteich I was late about 1 min., at Olympiastadion 0.5 min).

In my opinion it's good enough.
Layover before route back will be extended.


Any suggestions about this guys?

Regards !

CristianSkytter schrieb:

I just tested timetable for line 100.
I chose SD77 old bus to be more precise at 12 am.

- between Heerstr Stadgrenze and Magistrastweg -> 50 km/h
- between Am Omnibushof and Seeburger Str -> about 40-50km/h (with traffic lights)
- between U Rathaus Spandau and Platze -> 60 km/h (At Rathaus Spandau I was late about 1.5 min., at Platze only 0.5 min.)
- between Platze and Zeppelinstr. -> 55-60 km/h (straight road, no stops)
- between Zeppelinstr. and Am Kiesteich -> 30-45 km/h (at Am kiesteich I was late about 1 min., at Olympiastadion 0.5 min).

In my opinion it's good enough.
Layover before route back will be extended.


Any suggestions about this guys?

Regards !

If it is like this, then the average speed was 50 km/h and thats okey for sure!

EDIT: And this "another express route" I suggested before was just my opinion, I would like that, but it's your map If you don't see a point of it, then it's OK !

This is a Excellent Map.
I don't know if this is a timetable problem or something. [Traffic Jam nightmare]
Some Buses don't pickup Passages.

Panasonic44 schrieb:

This is a Excellent Map.
I don't know if this is a timetable problem or something. [Traffic Jam nightmare]
Some Buses don't pickup Passages.

Probably, you had Omsi minimized for a long time, so it's why this biggggg traffic jam took place.
It's not because of very intensive timetable for sure !

If some buses don't pick up passangers, but passengers want to get in, that means this bus drives to area where people want to travel.
They are waiting for another bus, which also drives to this area (for example Zeppelinstr stop -> Line 92 in direction Freudstr. and Line 5 in direction Freudstr.)
But unfortunately, AI is not such smart as we are, so it doesn't let passangers get in

I just register at the forum to say thanks for this great map, and to make some suggestions. And btw hello to all others here .

Zitat :

It will be fixed in next uptade.
All buses, after last serivce, will go to depot from all destinations.

Can i suggest that the busses also go from the depot to the first service?
I have edited your map my self to add this. But i would have to do it everytime if you update your great map.
It adds alot of realism and the user can take a tour as "Betriebsfahrt" from the depot too.

At Olympiastadion traffic is a problem. Atleast when you get out and in the place.

Edit: Had the same problem as EDawg in the next post. I just edited the whole loop to "no unscheduled traffic" and they where gone.

Hey Cristianskytter this is what I'm talking about....

CristianSkytter schrieb:

Panasonic44 schrieb:

This is a Excellent Map.
I don't know if this is a timetable problem or something. [Traffic Jam nightmare]
Some Buses don't pickup Passages.

Probably, you had Omsi minimized for a long time, so it's why this biggggg traffic jam took place.
It's not because of very intensive timetable for sure !

If some buses don't pick up passangers, but passengers want to get in, that means this bus drives to area where people want to travel.
They are waiting for another bus, which also drives to this area (for example Zeppelinstr stop -> Line 92 in direction Freudstr. and Line 5 in direction Freudstr.)
But unfortunately, AI is not such smart as we are, so it doesn't let passangers get in

No i don't minimized game, This was not the first time this had happened. It does accrue at different areas of the map. but it was Three bus 5s together located in pic.

Del1r1um schrieb:

I just register at the forum to say thanks for this great map, and to make some suggestions. And btw hello to all others here .

Can i suggest that the busses also go from the depot to the first service?
I have edited your map my self to add this. But i would have to do it everytime if you update your great map.
It adds alot of realism and the user can take a tour as "Betriebsfahrt" from the depot too.

Hello and thank you !
Yes. It will be added as well.
If you don't mind, you can send me those files so I can easily add them to all timetables

Del1r1um schrieb:

At Olympiastadion traffic is a problem. Atleast when you get out and in the place.

In this case, I'll take care of it.

Del1r1um schrieb:

Edit: Had the same problem as EDawg in the next post. I just edited the whole loop to "no unscheduled traffic" and they where gone.

EDawg schrieb:

Hey Cristianskytter this is what I'm talking about....

It's been already fixed.
It was my bad

Panasonic44 schrieb:

No i don't minimized game, This was not the first time this had happened. It does accrue at different areas of the map. but it was Three bus 5s together located in pic.

I have nothing to do with that.
It's not due to the map.
Sorry.

Regards.

Thank You anyway,

@ EDawg: Which station is this on the map?

Mozart schrieb:

@ EDawg: Which station is this on the map?

That is Heerstr. Gymnasium.

Actually. I am working on announcements for all stops on the map.
So, thanks to mozart, you should be satisfied guys

I fixed most of bugs and errors found, but now I need some time to test it.
So if you have any suggestion, it would be nice to hear it now.

Zitat :

If you don't mind, you can send me those files so I can easily add them to all timetables Smile

Sure no problem. Download them here.
Mind you, i had to edit your timetables to get them running .

Del1r1um schrieb:

Sure no problem. Download them here.
Mind you, i had to edit your timetables to get them running .

No worries.
I'll check it out.

Nice job !
One beer for this guy !

Hi Christian,

One other thing. When you select timetable 'Driving as an Additional bus' the bus doesn't change to Betreisfarht? And just spawns and spawns, driving forward and disappearing, driving forward and disappearing. I know thats not you're fault but maybe to do with the timetable for the AI, when the user vehicle takes over a service?

The only other one is as other people mentioned, the day buses going to the depot. Maybe we need another patch from M+R to fix the AI Issues.



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Someone plz help me.
After I've extracted all the files into the OMSI directory and ran the game
this message box popped up.

Is there anyway to solve?
THX

JunGRail schrieb:

Hi Christian,

One other thing. When you select timetable 'Driving as an Additional bus' the bus doesn't change to Betreisfarht? And just spawns and spawns, driving forward and disappearing, driving forward and disappearing. I know thats not you're fault but maybe to do with the timetable for the AI, when the user vehicle takes over a service?

The only other one is as other people mentioned, the day buses going to the depot. Maybe we need another patch from M+R to fix the AI Issues.



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The problem is this: When a AI bus has done his last service it will start all over again and jumps right to the first service of day. I saw line 13 at 23:46 driving the service of 7:55. The solutions is to send AI buses to the depot. But that point is setteld already in a upcoming update.

The other problem is a strange one and seems to appear more regurlary everyday!!. I noticed that sometimes the AI you're replacing stays and will doing his service. I think that's an Omsi problem because i had the same problem in the 137-337 map of David Rogers. I drove yesterday a nice afternoon service with a AI bus sticking on my tail all the way from Falkensee to Galenstrasse!.

JunGRail schrieb:

Hi Christian,

One other thing. When you select timetable 'Driving as an Additional bus' the bus doesn't change to Betreisfarht? And just spawns and spawns, driving forward and disappearing, driving forward and disappearing. I know thats not you're fault but maybe to do with the timetable for the AI, when the user vehicle takes over a service?

The only other one is as other people mentioned, the day buses going to the depot. Maybe we need another patch from M+R to fix the AI Issues.

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When you select 'Drive as an additional bus', AI bus will never change to 'Betriebsfahrt' because you are only another bus on the same tour !

If you want to take over service what AI bus uses, you have two ways:
- before trip - choose same timetable as AI at least 5 min before departure time (unmark 'Driving as an Additional bus' then AI bus will change to 'Betriebsfahrt')
- during trip - take over control of AI bus and then continue.

Regards.

I tend to takeover at Heerstr/Str for 92 etc or Omsihof. Its like it would be done in real life - driver transfers. bit annoying if the bus doesnt stop though haha!

CristianSkytter schrieb:

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When you select 'Drive as an additional bus', AI bus will never change to 'Betriebsfahrt' because you are only another bus on the same tour !


Regards.[/quote]

But that is going wrong sometimes. You get the replace message but the AI stays and will drive along with you. It seems it used the same timetable. But this isn't a problem of your map because it occurs also in other maps.

Maybe this problem belongs in another topic.

Alright, i understand that, but another issue is just Zoolog Garten, the AI traffic (Cars) cant seem to give each other the right of way again another OMSI problem (perhaps) but if turning left into Zoolog Garten the traffic coming on the lefts lights should remain red. Why not place signals like at U Rathaus Spandau, turning left signals, so the AI can wait before causing a major confusion. I had to crash through, clear the scene, cancel the timetable, re-enter the timetable at Zoolog Garten to continue

Mr Drive schrieb:

But that is going wrong sometimes. You get the replace message but the AI stays and will drive along with you. It seems it used the same timetable. But this isn't a problem of your map because it occurs also in other maps.

Maybe this problem belongs in another topic.

It's not due to the map for sure.

But make sure:

CristianSkytter schrieb:

- before trip - choose same timetable as AI at least 5 min before departure time (unmark 'Driving as an Additional bus' then AI bus will change to 'Betriebsfahrt')

JunGRail schrieb:

but if turning left into Zoolog Garten the traffic coming on the lefts lights should remain red.

Where exactly is that place?

Unfortunately, not all of crossings are able to set traffic lights on it.
For some of them, you can't set anything you want. It's just already programmed and can't be changed.

I've used original streets and junctions so it is exactly same as in other (not edited) areas.