Automatic next stop announcement issue

Hi guys,

As far as I read in the manual and here, D92 has an automatic next stop announcement.
I think I am missing something or I didn't understand it correctly... in my case for D92 bus, station announcement works only if I do it manually, by pressing
"Q" key, the clutch or pressing "Next stop" button on the IBIS. I didn't press Forward or Back (Mute).

Any ideas how to make it work correctly, automatic?
Thanks!
Valentin

It works already correctly. There are no automatic announcements in these old busses For that you must wait a few years.

This is an extract from english manual:

"Cycling through stops
When you press [Q], the clutch (loudspeaker key) or the IBIS “Next
Stop” or “Forward (Mute)” buttons, the next stop will be selected and
displayed. If the bus has an automatic announcement system, like the
D92, the next stop will be announced automatically, unless you’ve
pressed “Forward (Mute)”."

It is written that the next stop will be announced automatically for D92. For me automatically it means that I don't have to press each time the clutch or IBIS "Next stop" button once the route is introduced and started.

valir schrieb:

This is an extract from english manual:

"Cycling through stops
When you press [Q], the clutch (loudspeaker key) or the IBIS “Next
Stop” or “Forward (Mute)” buttons, the next stop will be selected and
displayed. If the bus has an automatic announcement system, like the
D92, the next stop will be announced automatically, unless you’ve
pressed “Forward (Mute)”."

It is written that the next stop will be announced automatically for D92. For me automatically it means that I don't have to press each time the clutch or IBIS "Next stop" button once the route is introduced and started.

Yes, an automatic announcement system, which means that a lady will read up the next stop so you don't have to do it.

Marpe schrieb:

valir schrieb:

This is an extract from english manual:

"Cycling through stops
When you press [Q], the clutch (loudspeaker key) or the IBIS “Next
Stop” or “Forward (Mute)” buttons, the next stop will be selected and
displayed. If the bus has an automatic announcement system, like the
D92, the next stop will be announced automatically, unless you’ve
pressed “Forward (Mute)”."

It is written that the next stop will be announced automatically for D92. For me automatically it means that I don't have to press each time the clutch or IBIS "Next stop" button once the route is introduced and started.

Yes, an automatic announcement system, which means that a lady will read up the next stop so you don't have to do it.

Ok, now I get it what automatically means in this case
Thanks!

A fully automated system would be nice, but in the real world these tend to use GPS, which didn't exist in 1989. So yes Valir, it is working correctly, you do have to press Q.

Hope you don't mine me going off on a slight tangent here, but I was curious as to how the IBIS-2 system knows how late / early you are if there is no GPS system integrated into the computer

Replaying to the post. Maybe you already know this, but with the automatic system on the D92, you don't have to change the bus signal manually either when you reach the last stop. Each time you reach the termibus, just hit the "next stop" button and it will rotate automatically.

supertoast92 schrieb:

Hope you don't mine me going off on a slight tangent here, but I was curious as to how the IBIS-2 system knows how late / early you are if there is no GPS system integrated into the computer

Maybe I'm wrong, but when I though the same, my conclusion was that it must be some kind of calculation based both on speed and current time. So if you're on a red light for 30 seconds, the system knows you're stoped, therefore you are 30 seconds late. Then when you continue moving, if you go at 70km/h it calculates the distance driven, and assuming where you should be at that speed, it calculates if you're too early or too late.

But as I said, it's just something I guessed, that maybe has nothing to do with the real thing

I reckon it's as simple as;

It refers to the loaded timetable (the times for each stop on the route) and compares these with 'present time' and location, by use of the driver pressing the 'next stop' (Q) button.

So if the timetable says you should be at Rathaus Spandau at 13:00 and you leave leave Ruhlebener Str. (the stop before) at 12:57 and hit the Q button (to say you're approaching Rathaus Spandau), it will report that you're 3 minutes early (-3.0).

That's my understanding of it anyway; target time for stop versus actual time at stop = variance.

No GPS needed, as the driver is telling the machine what stop the bus is at, via the 'next' (Q) button / pedal.

Cheers,

The thing with Q is not really what is used in my opinion as you can forgot to press it or you can pass by one, two stops without stoping and so on.
I didn't open the scenery editor but my opinion is that timetable is the reference and then there are some 'triggers''builtin the map for each station which detects the bus presence and then time is compared.

You're probably right, for in the sim (as it's easier in the virtual world to track).

In my city, announcements on older buses (NG312, O405GN, NG313) are triggered by distance travelled, even if bus passes bus stop, it stiill knows where on route it is.

Newer Lion's City G, Conecto and Conecto G have GPS announcements.

Well I tested it, and indeed I stand corrected, OMSI doesn't simply use the 'Q' position.

The reason I know this now is because I ran the 92 from Stadtgrenze - Freudstrasse, but I missed out Altstadt (just turned left at the roundabout and went straight up towards Freudstr.).

OMSI must use actual bus stops for it's auto timing function on the IBIS too, because although I just skipped the 2 Altstadt bus stops by pressing 'Q' twice, it didn't register and my time ran later and later and later on the IBIS2.... (even though I got to Freustr. 4 mins early!).

So the auto timing function on the IBIS 2 was waiting for me physically drive past the 2 Altstadt bus stops and because I didn't, the timing function stopped giving my correct -/+ variance.

...clearly OMSI is using a vintage GPS technology

Cheers,

TriGlav schrieb:

In my city, announcements on older buses (NG312, O405GN, NG313) are triggered by distance travelled, even if bus passes bus stop, it stiill knows where on route it is.

Newer Lion's City G, Conecto and Conecto G have GPS announcements.

But on some GPS positions, they are wrong. Becouse bus goes through one intersection twice in one direction, and the system anounce nerest station, on wich bus have alrady stopped in his round.

davidrogers schrieb:

...clearly OMSI is using a vintage GPS technology
,

Don't forget it's still a game, man

valir schrieb:

The thing with Q is not really what is used in my opinion as you can forgot to press it or you can pass by one, two stops without stoping and so on.
I didn't open the scenery editor but my opinion is that timetable is the reference and then there are some 'triggers''builtin the map for each station which detects the bus presence and then time is compared.

In my hometown of London the driver actually does the same thing, presses the next stop button on the Oyster / Ticket Machine and if he's forgotten to press it after a couple tops you go through the stop until you reach the one you're currently at. However we use iBus now and that is a GPS based technology but before time everything was manual and all we had was the 'Bus Stopping' i do like the D92 for that feature, adds a lovely enhancement to the game, but i prefer rolling the blinds myself.

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