Anzahl der Beiträge : 118 Anmeldedatum : 03.04.11 Ort : Somewhere in the Bearland...
Thema: LAZ 4202 [WIP] So 26 Jun - 8:31
So...another bus is on the way to OMSI !
LAZ-4202 is city bus, produced by L'vovskim Avtobusni Zavod (Lviv Bus Factory, Ukraine) from 1978 to 1983. Bus was equipped by KamAZ 740 diesel and Lviv-3 hydromechanical gearbox. Because bus was designed in big rush, he has many weak places - body was very fragile and maintance of gearbox and engine caused a lot of questions. Probably it's most unsuccessful bus, produced by LAZ. Successor of LAZ 4202 was LAZ 42021 with more strong body and mechanical gearbox. Only several LAZ4202 survived to our days.
So...here is the first steps. Because this bus is very rare, biggest problem - information searches (photo's, sounds, etc.)
wertz
Anzahl der Beiträge : 559 Anmeldedatum : 04.04.11
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] So 26 Jun - 9:39
nice bus !
Lockheart
Anzahl der Beiträge : 125 Anmeldedatum : 17.03.11
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] So 26 Jun - 11:36
Wow, that looks awesome. Consider me excited for this next bus.
peterZZD
Anzahl der Beiträge : 270 Anmeldedatum : 20.12.10 Alter : 26 Ort : Depending on the time of the year, middle of nowhere or middle of nowhere
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] So 26 Jun - 16:16
Yet another маршрутка to collection I feel like in Russia and yet I haven't been there. Oh, have a look, by the way >> http://www.przegubowiec.com/travel/200805/200805_01_sybir.htm . By the way - is this "not-fully-pushed" door thing real? I'm asking because it's in the 677m and now again here.
FRENZYMAX_RUS
Anzahl der Beiträge : 118 Anmeldedatum : 03.04.11 Ort : Somewhere in the Bearland...
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] So 26 Jun - 17:44
Zitat :
Yet another маршрутка to collection
Ughm...that's not маршрутка (marshrutka)...that's marshrutka...a minibus, which working on line and stopping on passenger requests. As you can see - our bus is much bigger.
Zitat :
By the way - is this "not-fully-pushed" door thing real? I'm asking because it's in the 677m and now again here.
Yep, that's again here...but honestly - real reason why we won't make a fully openable door is some script problems...we can make normal, fully openable doors but in opened position they will be looks too bad...
FR1GTS
Anzahl der Beiträge : 116 Anmeldedatum : 12.02.11 Alter : 27 Ort : Nis,Serbia
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] So 26 Jun - 20:31
Great work as always
Engine is Kama3,V8? (I used to see V8Kama3 in trucks operated by "JGP" for cleaning and pipelines)
peterZZD
Anzahl der Beiträge : 270 Anmeldedatum : 20.12.10 Alter : 26 Ort : Depending on the time of the year, middle of nowhere or middle of nowhere
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Mo 27 Jun - 18:03
FRENZYMAX_RUS schrieb:
Zitat :
Yet another маршрутка to collection
Ughm...that's not маршрутка (marshrutka)...that's marshrutka...a minibus, which working on line and stopping on passenger requests. As you can see - our bus is much bigger.
Well, my bad - in Poland anything that's run privately (and quickly and "millimeters from side mirrors of parked cars" as someone once said) in ex-USSR is considered a marshrutka. OK, I'll keep away from that name for the LAZ.
480
Anzahl der Beiträge : 3 Anmeldedatum : 20.06.11
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Mo 27 Jun - 21:50
Нормально , а так думаю что маршрутку будет довольно интересно сделать, Газель то не подойдет по высоте, а вот Руту или чего нибудь такого.
FRENZYMAX_RUS
Anzahl der Beiträge : 118 Anmeldedatum : 03.04.11 Ort : Somewhere in the Bearland...
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Di 28 Jun - 5:56
Zitat :
так думаю что маршрутку будет довольно интересно сделать
НЕТ !!1111 Никаких маршруток для OMSI.
Zitat :
Газель то не подойдет по высоте
Всё подойдёт, просто надо правильно написать код для пассажиров.
ESWE2011
Anzahl der Beiträge : 602 Anmeldedatum : 20.02.11 Alter : 64 Ort : Wiesbaden
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Mi 29 Jun - 20:14
I love old buses, class work.
MAN_SD200
Anzahl der Beiträge : 44 Anmeldedatum : 15.06.09 Alter : 30
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Do 30 Jun - 11:21
FRENZYMAX_RUS schrieb:
Zitat :
так думаю что маршрутку будет довольно интересно сделать
НЕТ !!1111 Никаких маршруток для OMSI.
RU: Мы в Польше маршрутки называем "бус" (латинское правописание: BUS). Я тоже ненавижу это говно и не хочу их видеть в OMSI. EN: We in Poland call them "BUS" (not spoken as English word "bus", but "boos" ). I don't want this shit in OMSI too.
Хорошый ЛАЗ. Будет он имял просто красивые звуки как ЛиАЗ 677М? Beautiful LAZ. Is it possible to make sounds as realistic as these from LiAZ 677M? Are you planning it? EDIT: Извините, я не читал внимательно. Какие автобусы или грузовики могут имиеть тот же двигатель? Я могл бы записать звук для вас.
1061-001
Anzahl der Beiträge : 69 Anmeldedatum : 10.05.09 Ort : Budapest
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Fr 1 Jul - 14:01
Nice bus, keep up the good work! The small maps which have only 1-2 villages are now good to drive with these small busses, like the Liaz and this. The MANs were too big for that duty
Personally I like russian busses especially these small ones, so I'm a total fan of your work Let me ask sg: you had a video on youtube about a bus, called PAZ 32051. Is it a WIP or the project is stopped?
FRENZYMAX_RUS
Anzahl der Beiträge : 118 Anmeldedatum : 03.04.11 Ort : Somewhere in the Bearland...
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Fr 1 Jul - 16:57
MAN_SD200 schrieb:
We in Poland call them "BUS" (not spoken as English word "bus", but "boos" Razz). I don't want this shit in OMSI too.
+1...i am very tired from this kind of transport in real life
MAN_SD200 schrieb:
Beautiful LAZ. Is it possible to make sounds as realistic as these from LiAZ 677M? Are you planning it?
Thanks. We are searching for good sound samples. Same engine was installed on some buses and KamAZ trucks
1061-001 schrieb:
Let me ask sg: you had a video on youtube about a bus, called PAZ 32051. Is it a WIP or the project is stopped?
Actually this project is wasn't started. Just a small "warm-up" and searches of good base model for converting. But when author of this model will give us better model (as he promised 2 month ago) and manual gearbox script came out, we will try to finish this bus.
FRENZYMAX_RUS
Anzahl der Beiträge : 118 Anmeldedatum : 03.04.11 Ort : Somewhere in the Bearland...
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Mo 4 Jul - 9:08
UPDATE Lights and dashboard
Thiago
Anzahl der Beiträge : 252 Anmeldedatum : 18.02.11 Ort : Brazil
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Mo 4 Jul - 9:54
You've very talented. Congratulations!
FRENZYMAX_RUS
Anzahl der Beiträge : 118 Anmeldedatum : 03.04.11 Ort : Somewhere in the Bearland...
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Mi 6 Jul - 5:58
Dave
Anzahl der Beiträge : 254 Anmeldedatum : 20.02.11 Alter : 45 Ort : Braunschweig
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Mi 6 Jul - 10:15
very nice good work
FRENZYMAX_RUS
Anzahl der Beiträge : 118 Anmeldedatum : 03.04.11 Ort : Somewhere in the Bearland...
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Do 7 Jul - 4:33
Small Bonus:
Lockheart
Anzahl der Beiträge : 125 Anmeldedatum : 17.03.11
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Do 7 Jul - 4:47
This is looking to be an amazing bus. Quick questions though, will it be repaintable roughly the same as your last bus or will it be different? second, those pictures of the girls, will they be alterable as well? Say have the route maps behind the driver(on the big picture)?
Either way, I love that the matrix only shows two lines. I cannot wait to add this to my maps fleet!
FRENZYMAX_RUS
Anzahl der Beiträge : 118 Anmeldedatum : 03.04.11 Ort : Somewhere in the Bearland...
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Do 7 Jul - 5:38
Lockheart schrieb:
will it be repaintable roughly the same as your last bus or will it be different?
No, it will be repaintable by different way, because author of original model do not made unwrap for bus body. You can only change the colour of the body, front bumper, doors and wheels. Maybe we add body unwrap in patches
Lockheart schrieb:
second, those pictures of the girls, will they be alterable as well? Say have the route maps behind the driver(on the big picture)?
Why ? They looks great ! Okay, you can edit texture of all these these posters and change it on everything what you want
Florian
Anzahl der Beiträge : 303 Anmeldedatum : 19.02.11 Alter : 39 Ort : Göttingen
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Do 7 Jul - 10:18
wirklich gute Arbeit
Lockheart
Anzahl der Beiträge : 125 Anmeldedatum : 17.03.11
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Do 7 Jul - 16:06
FRENZYMAX_RUS schrieb:
No, it will be repaintable by different way, because author of original model do not made unwrap for bus body. You can only change the colour of the body, front bumper, doors and wheels. Maybe we add body unwrap in patches
Thats not to bad, but will they be like the past one that can use the CTI files or like the past Addons that require a another install of the bus? Beyond that, looking forward to it!
FRENZYMAX_RUS schrieb:
Why ? They looks great ! Okay, you can edit texture of all these these posters and change it on everything what you want
Haha, don't get me wrong, they are great. But I'm sure there will be people who won't like them, or want to change them.
I'm excited to see that this is only a two door bus instead of the usual three door models, not that I have anything against the three doors, but the two doors are much more familiar to me.
Any wild/rough/ballpark idea of a release? like next few months, weeks, years? or will you be sticking with the good old, "Its done when its done"?
FRENZYMAX_RUS
Anzahl der Beiträge : 118 Anmeldedatum : 03.04.11 Ort : Somewhere in the Bearland...
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Do 7 Jul - 16:51
Lockheart schrieb:
Thats not to bad, but will they be like the past one that can use the CTI files or like the past Addons that require a another install of the bus? Beyond that, looking forward to it!
Of course, repaints will be avalible via CTI-files, like in LiAZ-677m - it's a standart for all our models.
Lockheart schrieb:
Any wild/rough/ballpark idea of a release? like next few months, weeks, years? or will you be sticking with the good old, "Its done when its done"?
I'm prefer "Its done when its done", because we have a huge problem with the engine sounds...we just can't catch any bus equipped by KamAZ-740 engine
ediblechickenwing
Anzahl der Beiträge : 317 Anmeldedatum : 16.04.10 Ort : South Wales, UK
Thema: Re: LAZ 4202 [WIP] Do 7 Jul - 16:53
Looks great Although I'd prefer the pictures removed and maybe the curtain because most countries do not decorate their buses with personal items. But still, at least you can change the textures.
The only thing I would say is that the destination displays need more work. Perhaps just have the number on the left and just one line which is the same size as the number. This method looks strange (although I assume this is what they look like in Russia) and also the writing is very blurry and stretched. I'd suggest making a new font with bigger & narrower letters if you decide to keep it like it is, because that will stop it looking blurred.