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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 12:18

Would someone like to make map with all bus stops etc...
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 12:22

CristianSkytter schrieb:

But make sure:
CristianSkytter schrieb:

- before trip - choose same timetable as AI at least 5 min before departure time (unmark 'Driving as an Additional bus' then AI bus will change to 'Betriebsfahrt')

Mostly i do, but i gonna check that one out!!

I llke a good challenge! Smile
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 12:33

JunGRail schrieb:
Alright, i understand that, but another issue is just Zoolog Garten, the AI traffic (Cars) cant seem to give each other the right of way again another OMSI problem (perhaps) but if turning left into Zoolog Garten the traffic coming on the lefts lights should remain red. Why not place signals like at U Rathaus Spandau, turning left signals, so the AI can wait before causing a major confusion. I had to crash through, clear the scene, cancel the timetable, re-enter the timetable at Zoolog Garten to continue Wink


The Omsi traffic rules are a bit strange so now and then. When i go straight ahead the deviated traffic from the other direction should wait, but not in Omsi; they drive straight on and more than a few times i bumped right into them or had to use my brakes firmly. And that gives my passengers reason to complain and throw some insults!! Crying or Very sad

Another important thing is when you hit a car; call the police. If you don't do that. The car will stay and cause a huge traffic jam or block the way altogether. On your way back you can "enjoy" the benefits of that!

On my first Omsi day i had the habit of leaving my bus when things went wrong and left it there. That's was a good reaseon for big traffic jams. The AI buses couldn't pass my deserted bus. Well the outcome is clear i think!


Zuletzt von Mr Drive am Mi 27 Apr - 12:51 bearbeitet, insgesamt 3 mal bearbeitet
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 12:36

Mr Drive schrieb:


The Omsi traffic rules are a bit strange so now and then. When i go straight ahead the deviated traffic from the other direction should wait, but not in Omsi; they drive straight on and more than a few times i bumped right into them or had to use my brakes firmly. And that gives my passengers reason to complain en throiw some german insults!! Crying or Very sad

I agree with you, Mr Drive.


Please keep in mind I am only a map creator, not a game creator Wink

Regards.
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 12:49

CristianSkytter schrieb:
Mr Drive schrieb:


The Omsi traffic rules are a bit strange so now and then. When i go straight ahead the deviated traffic from the other direction should wait, but not in Omsi; they drive straight on and more than a few times i bumped right into them or had to use my brakes firmly. And that gives my passengers reason to complain en throiw some german insults!! Crying or Very sad

I agree with you, Mr Drive.


Please keep in mind I am only a map creator, not a game creator Wink

Regards.
And i fine job you do!!!

In all aspect of life we have to live with limitations, also in Omsi! Wink
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 13:29

Cristian, take a look at the Aalemannufer terminus. The AI buses don't park themselves as they should, I think.
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 13:58

and995 schrieb:
Cristian, take a look at the Aalemannufer terminus. The AI buses don't park themselves as they should, I think.

I need more details.
Do you mean that AI buses don't park at the terminus loop when your bus is parked there?

It's like this:
- first stop from left - it's terminus for AI 94 line,
- second from left - it's terminus for AI 54 line,
- third from left - it's recommended terminus for players, free.


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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 14:05

hi,
ne frage läuft den diese maps ohne Fehler?
Wo stehn die ibis und routen strecken code?

danke
Gruss Wuschelkoch
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 14:27

CristianSkytter schrieb:
and995 schrieb:
Cristian, take a look at the Aalemannufer terminus. The AI buses don't park themselves as they should, I think.

I need more details.
Do you mean that AI buses don't park at the terminus loop when your bus is parked there?

It's like this:
- first stop from left - it's terminus for AI 94 line,
- second from left - it's terminus for AI 54 line,
- third from left - it's recommended terminus for players, free.



I meant that AI buses don't park at the terminus loop when it's free. AI came to a stop just at the entrance of the loop if you can call it like this. It was first loop form left. It got stuck behind a bush. I don't know what happed when the AI needed to depart. My departure time was earlier. I stood on the third loop from left.
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 14:47

and995 schrieb:


I meant that AI buses don't park at the terminus loop when it's free. AI came to a stop just at the entrance of the loop if you can call it like this. It was first loop form left. It got stuck behind a bush. I don't know what happed when the AI needed to depart. My departure time was earlier. I stood on the third loop from left.

I checked it and when you stand at third stop (from left, not used by AI) only 54 seems to have problem with parking exactly at the terminus (only when player's bus stands on the stop).
When I left my stop, AI parked.

Line 94 does not cause problems.
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 15:07

really big and great map.
the streets are very nice to drive and the objects are beautiful placed.
the only problem is that my bus jumps up and down, although i have low settings.
It would be nice if there's a map of all the bus stops.

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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 15:11

CristianSkytter schrieb:
and995 schrieb:


I meant that AI buses don't park at the terminus loop when it's free. AI came to a stop just at the entrance of the loop if you can call it like this. It was first loop form left. It got stuck behind a bush. I don't know what happed when the AI needed to depart. My departure time was earlier. I stood on the third loop from left.

I checked it and when you stand at third stop (from left, not used by AI) only 54 seems to have problem with parking exactly at the terminus (only when player's bus stands on the stop).
When I left my stop, AI parked.

Line 94 does not cause problems.

Sorry, my bad, I said I stood on the third loop, but it was the second and the AI could't turn to the first loop.

It's game another game problem I guess?
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 15:40

hi out there,
at first my appreciation for this map.
it´s a great job.
However, some things bother me

1. sometimes the traffic is horrible, don´t know if u can change there anything. after I've played 2-3 hours I will run over by cars ^^
2. the IBIS-problem what has already been mentioned several times: i tested it with all busses and there is really no route or target for any of your lines for the SD200-D85 bus, all others are fine.
don´t know if anyone had already posted. I'm too lazy to search Wink
3. Some buses don´t notice me at a bus stop. they simply go through me.

However, this is by far the best map so far. *bigthumbsup*
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 16:21

and995 schrieb:


It's game another game problem I guess?

Not really.
Because AI buses can drive only on desiganted tracks.
The Aalemannufer terminus is a place created by me. There's no traffic in original Spandau map.
So I had to set a terminus for line 94 at the first stop and for 54 at the second stop by creating new tracks.

Unluckily, AI buses are not able to choose free terminus at the moment as we are. So it looks like that Very Happy
When AI bus approaches very close to you, it can't move on. It's kinda dead zone or something.

mmeepp schrieb:

It would be nice if there's a map of all the bus stops.

Thanks for appreciating but what do you mean? Please, explain yourself Wink


wolki schrieb:


1. sometimes the traffic is horrible, don´t know if u can change there anything. after I've played 2-3 hours I will run over by cars ^^
2. the IBIS-problem what has already been mentioned several times: i tested it with all busses and there is really no route or target for any of your lines for the SD200-D85 bus, all others are fine.
don´t know if anyone had already posted. I'm too lazy to search Wink
3. Some buses don´t notice me at a bus stop. they simply go through me.

1)If it really is, please give me detailed informations.
I am afraid noone noticed it till today.

2)It's not possible. IBIS works or doesn't work for every bus.
Probably you selected wrong depot file when added SD85 bus Wink

3)Same as 1 point. I need more details where exactly it happened.


Thank you all for replies.
Regards.





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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 16:29

I mean something like the Poster.pdf in the Spandau-Map.
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 16:53

Zitat :
Nice job !
One beer for this guy !
Thanks! Laughing
Hopefully they are helpfully to you. If i can help to make this map even better, i will.

Zitat :
- before trip - choose same timetable as AI at least 5 min before departure time (unmark 'Driving as an Additional bus' then AI bus will change to 'Betriebsfahrt')

Mostly i do, but i gonna check that one out!!

I llke a good challenge! Smile

They will change to "Betriebsfahrt" and try to drive home to the depot, atleast if the ai can find a track back to the depot.
If he cant find a track, there are 3 ways he reacts. Atleast by my observations.
1. He will try to go on his route to the next terminus in his timetable and if he finds a track back to the depot there, he will take it.
2. He just drives as "Betriebsfahrt" all over the map, because he cant find a track back to the depot.
3. If you are to late to take his task, he will continue his timetable until the next Terminus and then starts to go back to the depot or with option 1 or 2.

I actually am not 100% sure about this but thats what my observations look like.

Zitat :
2. the IBIS-problem what has already been mentioned several times: i tested it with all busses and there is really no route or target for any of your lines for the SD200-D85 bus, all others are fine.
don´t know if anyone had already posted. I'm too lazy to search

Hm, the IBIS-Codes for the sd85 are working, i know that cos i drive the SD85 almost all the time and drove all routes on the map with it Smile .

Zitat :
hi,
ne frage läuft den diese maps ohne Fehler?
Wo stehn die ibis und routen strecken code?

danke
Gruss Wuschelkoch

@Wuschelkoch im Prinzip sind die ganzen Ibis codes so aufgebaut wie bei der 92er.
Also zb. Ibis:
92=09200
97=09700
56=05600
100=10000
usw.

Und routen sind dann immer 01 und 02.

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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 17:02

Del1r1um schrieb:


@Wuschelkoch im Prinzip sind die ganzen Ibis codes so aufgebaut wie bei der 92er.
Also zb. Ibis:
92=09200
97=09700
56=05600
100=10000
usw.

Und routen sind dann immer 01 und 02.


Thanks for support Del1r1um.
For night lines it's route 10 and route 11 Wink
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 17:04

Actually, I never managed to give a direct-to-the-author opinion (I only gave one on the Polish OMSI forum)...
Well, the map's interesting but one SINGLE thing annoys me... I know it's fictional, but there's one thing I cannot let you pass with Razz

U+S Zoologischer Garten goes to the East relative to U Rathaus Spandau, not north!

Thank you Smile
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 17:10

mmeepp schrieb:
I mean something like the Poster.pdf in the Spandau-Map.

I will think about it.



peterZZD schrieb:
Actually, I never managed to give a direct-to-the-author opinion (I only gave one on the Polish OMSI forum)...
Well, the map's interesting but one SINGLE thing annoys me... I know it's fictional, but there's one thing I cannot let you pass with Razz

U+S Zoologischer Garten goes to the East relative to U Rathaus Spandau, not north!

Thank you Smile

I know that Smile
I am sorry but you must forgive me.

In first post you can find:
CristianSkytter schrieb:

Because of the real size of Berlin, some created terminuses use real names but they are placed in not real distances/areas.
I've used them to keep the climat in game Smile

As you can see on the map, firstly, I was trying to create new areas in the direction to real Ruhleben.
But, becasue of not enough much time, I gave up Wink

Regards !
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 17:19

Zitat :
Thanks for support Del1r1um.
For night lines it's route 10 and route 11 Wink

No problem.


At all that still have problems with the IBIS codes. I have added the codes to CristianSkytter`s Linelist.txt.
An alle die immer noch Probleme mit den IBIS Codes haben, ich habe alle IBIS Codes in CristianSkytter`s Linienlist hinzugefügt.

Here it is: CLICK
Hier kann man sie finden: CLICK

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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 18:15

Haven't tried the map out yet, but it's downloaded and installed, just have to finish wasting my time on facebook first Wink

I've printed myself a list over your rotues, and if you don't think it's too stupid I'll post it here too. It's an RTF document and contains your trip numbers, line numbers, ziel codes, and a little diagram at the bottom showing the special characters for line numbers.
http://www.filedropper.com/processing/filedownload.php?id=ibis
Razz
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 18:30

eirikho schrieb:
Haven't tried the map out yet, but it's downloaded and installed, just have to finish wasting my time on facebook first Wink

I've printed myself a list over your rotues, and if you don't think it's too stupid I'll post it here too. It's an RTF document and contains your trip numbers, line numbers, ziel codes, and a little diagram at the bottom showing the special characters for line numbers.
http://www.filedropper.com/processing/filedownload.php?id=ibis
Razz

Thanks for that !
If you don't mind, I'm gonna edit your file a little bit and share it with the others after next uptade.

Regards.
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 18:35

CristianSkytter schrieb:
eirikho schrieb:
Haven't tried the map out yet, but it's downloaded and installed, just have to finish wasting my time on facebook first Wink

I've printed myself a list over your rotues, and if you don't think it's too stupid I'll post it here too. It's an RTF document and contains your trip numbers, line numbers, ziel codes, and a little diagram at the bottom showing the special characters for line numbers.
http://www.filedropper.com/processing/filedownload.php?id=ibis
Razz

Thanks for that !
If you don't mind, I'm gonna edit your file a little bit and share it with the others after next uptade.

Regards.
Sure, go ahead Smile
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 19:02

I tried both downloads now but every time my unzipping program will crash after 98% because one file could not be extracted correctly.
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BeitragThema: Re: [05.06.2011/UPDATE] --> New Berlin-Spandau Map V1.4 + New Route Map for all lines :)   Mi 27 Apr - 19:04

Mirko C schrieb:
I tried both downloads now but every time my unzipping program will crash after 98% because one file could not be extracted correctly.

I recommend to use WinRAR application.
It shouldn't cause any problem.

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