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 [Released] 1.3 - Voith 4 speed Gearbox for SD202 (D86)

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krtz07




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BeitragThema: [Released] 1.3 - Voith 4 speed Gearbox for SD202 (D86)   [Released] 1.3 - Voith 4 speed  Gearbox for SD202 (D86) Icon_minitimeDo 17 März - 2:38

This mod basically adds another gear to the transmission to download this file, go here. This is version 1.1. It improves the way the transmission shifts into 4th grade.
http://www.philadelphiatransitvehicles.info/OMSI/D851-4speed-1.3.zip
Extract the contents to the following directory or wherever the Man_SD202 directory is located.
C:\Program Files\m-r-software\Omsi\Vehicles\MAN_SD202

Do not worry, nothing will be overwritten!

Instructions, start up OMSI, look for the SD202 - D86R under the Man Selection.

Once selected, the edits done to the .bus file should appear.

Gearbox: Voith D851.3 - Retrofitted with Overdrive
Maximum speed: 102 km/h


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Thanks! Smile
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Cool mod. Gonna try it out right away. I was goofing around the other day trying to do the same thing but i couldnt get it to shift to 4th lol.
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BlackAce schrieb:
Cool mod. Gonna try it out right away. I was goofing around the other day trying to do the same thing but i couldnt get it to shift to 4th lol.
The script itself needs some adjustments, just adding a value to the consist file will not do anything. I so hope that M-R will make a SDK on the basic characteristics of the bus sometime in the near future. Would love to see something else besides a Voith in the sim.
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krtz07 schrieb:
BlackAce schrieb:
Cool mod. Gonna try it out right away. I was goofing around the other day trying to do the same thing but i couldnt get it to shift to 4th lol.
The script itself needs some adjustments, just adding a value to the consist file will not do anything. I so hope that M-R will make a SDK on the basic characteristics of the bus sometime in the near future. Would love to see something else besides a Voith in the sim.
I figured. I didnt have much time to mess around with it. Maybe tonight Razz
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krtz07




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BlackAce schrieb:
krtz07 schrieb:
BlackAce schrieb:
Cool mod. Gonna try it out right away. I was goofing around the other day trying to do the same thing but i couldnt get it to shift to 4th lol.
The script itself needs some adjustments, just adding a value to the consist file will not do anything. I so hope that M-R will make a SDK on the basic characteristics of the bus sometime in the near future. Would love to see something else besides a Voith in the sim.
I figured. I didnt have much time to mess around with it. Maybe tonight Razz
To start you you off, Well you could start with the files which I have provided and note the changes made to them. Good luck to you, hopefully you can do a ZF transmission in the future Smile From what I have heard, the transmission script is tailored to that of an Voith though. You also have to add values to the consist file as well such as upshifting and downshifting. If some of these values overlap, then the gear will upshift and downshift extremely fast.

Code:
[const]
antrieb_getr_autoSwUpMinSpd3
1610

[const]
antrieb_getr_autoSwUpMaxSpd3
1800

[const]
antrieb_getr_autoSwUpkickdnSpd3
2301

[const]
antrieb_getr_autoSwDnMinSpd4
1200

[const]
antrieb_getr_autoSwDnMaxSpd4
1540

[const]
antrieb_getr_autoSwDnkickdnSpd4
1708

These controll the upshift and downshift, the values refer to the driveshaft rpm. Well ofcourse this is to get you started, good luck to you and anyone else who wants to modified the transmission.
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The Kickdowns at the 3. Speed don't sound so good as original, maybe a adaption will better perform.
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Thanks for the tip. I might look into it tonight.
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zavage schrieb:
The Kickdowns at the 3. Speed don't sound so good as original, maybe a adaption will better perform.
adaption?
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i translate this word from german to english, a another word for this is adjustment.
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Not too sure if I follow you correctly, but I have tried to make the kickdown into 3rd gear more "responsive", however apparently if the transmission downshifts at high rpm, it starts slipping. I tried flooring it, the engine revs but very little acceleration!
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In 1.2, I have added Braking torque of the retarder to the 4th gear, so when the retarder activates, it does not brake too fast!
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Not going to comment too much on it, but a ZF script is in the works Very Happy

Released Version 1.3,

- Fixed slippage bug on downshift from 4th to 3rd gear, not too sure if that is what Zavage was referring to or not...
- Retarder braking in 4th gear now gets a profile
- Tweaks the torque converter to a 5.54 multiplier, the bus initially accelerates more realistically, the higher range of the first gear no longer "lingers". So the hill performance is now better in the higher range of the first gear.
- Tweaks made so if the transmission were to shift into 4th gear, it will not longer fight with the 3rd gear - No more rapid up and down shifting. It used to occur when the throttle was not at 100%.


http://www.philadelphiatransitvehicles.info/OMSI/D851-4speed-1.3.zip


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Very, very good. Very Happy
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Excellent, really enjoying your engine tweaking work. Thanks for doing it Cool

David.
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